I got out Feb. '16 and went and talked to my old boss. I worked for a paving company and it was the the wrong time of year to put me on so I started to draw unemployment and thinking about how to get out of doing labor work. I paved for 2 yrs but I'm a 17 yr journeyman roofer that's another part maybe will talk about that later. The long and short is I have my CDL (Commercial Driver License) with all my endorsements. If I can just get a shot who ever I work for will love me. I've never been fired and have good references but they won't even talk to me can you help me my school sure ain't. I really want to long haul but ain't choosy. I'm 48. The kids are grown and the ex is gone. It's perfect for me. I've always wanted to see the states. Please help if you can or point me in the right direction. I think I've applied on most of the sights.
Glen
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Hello Glen,
Your situation may be perfect for a trucking career. Often I meet ex-offenders and felons who have opted for driving jobs.
Here is a page with a good list of trucking companies. A large number of them hire ex-offenders and felons. There are even notations regarding their hiring policies.
Each trucking company makes its own rules regarding felony convictions. Some will employ a driver after 5 years or longer since the conviction. Other companies won't hire felons, regardless. You just need to get on the phone and start contacting carriers.
Without experience you are somewhat limited as to will hire you. Having the felony conviction reduces your pool of companies further. The best thing you can do is make some phone calls.
Best of luck to you.
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I am trying to start a business that employs ex-prisoners, primarily. I have a close family friend that has some theft charges from Indiana, (automatically felony in Indiana), the charges were placed on him by his Step-mother and a former girl friends mother after the Step mom told her she had pawn tickets indicating that her stepson pawned some of the womens' things,(given to him by the woman's daughter he was dating). Anyway, he is at heart a good kid and as time went on we found more kids that have ruined lives because of their not so loving family. I want to sell clothes and other popular items to teens and middle twenties types that are created and sold by former inmates.
I would like to see if former inmates that have a piece of a business and pride in what they do, while making some cash to live, will stop the pattern of repeat jail terms.
I have been trying to find more funds and was hoping you can help me so I can help them.
Leslie
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Hello Leslie,
This is certainly a worthy endeavor. Often I encourage those choosing to start a business is to contact the Service Corps of Retires Executives (SCORE.) SCORE is a nonprofit association dedicated to educating entrepreneurs and helping small business start, grow and succeed nationwide. There are both pros and cons to ex-offenders and felonsstarting businesses over getting jobs. You can get more information here and the locations in Indiana here:
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I appreciate your website. This is my question. I have a felony and I need a job. I see job listings that ask for a resume and a cover letter. I don't know how do do neither one. I need help to prepare a resume. Also, a cover letter. How can I get started?
Thank you,
Lisa
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Hello Lisa,
A felon stands a better chance of getting a job by applying with a resume and well written cover letter. Often when one applies in this way, the question of a criminal record never comes up. The quality of your resume will say a lot about you. Every positive felon job search should begin with a well written resume. There are many resources on the internet to get you started. If you have trouble after that, I suggest getting help from someone who has experience writing them. Whatever you do, make sure both your resume and cover letter are top notch. If you do not know anyone who can help, you can get help with writing a resume and other job search assistance at your local One-stop Career Center.
There are counselors who can provide one-on-one help. Often counselors are experienced in helping ex-offenders and felons get jobs. Take a look at the video below.
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There seems to be a lot of jobs for Ultra Sound and X-ray Techs. I think either of these would be great jobs for my son and other young people who want to turn their lives around. Please can someone give me an answer on this. I try hard to get as much help as I can in these areas. These people have done their time, they have been punished and so has the parents!
Katheia
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Hello Katheia,
I have students with felonyconvictions who were able to get grants and loans for education and subsequently jobs. Unfortunately not everyone convicted of a felony is eligible. Certain drug convictions require that you complete an accepted drug rehabilitation program in order to be eligible for federal financial aid.
I suggest you contact the financial aid office of the institution you wish to attend. The institution wants you as a student and will do everything they can to help you get financial aid. They will also help you complete the FAFSA (Free Application for Federal Student Aid.)
You can get get the more information as well as a down loadable FAFSA here:
There also may be financial aid available from your state.
I regards to getting a job in the medical field, I suggest contacting the medical licensing board in your state to find out if your conviction will prohibit you from being certified or licensed in your state.
I hope this helps
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Three years ago, I was arrested for a DWI with child under 15. It was a difficult case because there was a lot of circumstances surrounding the case. Gastric bypass, anxiety meds consumed, etc. Anyhow, DA pursued prosecution but found a loophole for Deferred for me on this felony. Just in time before legislation closed. Three months before they did actually. Anyhow, I served my two years probation and it ended without incident. I was able to find a great job while on Deferred but only because I knew the person. I had to quit my job due to personality conflict and now I cannot find work anywhere. It is already embarrassing enough to have this charge on my record being a mother, a college student, a respected individual. But now I can’t seem to find work. I’ve applied everywhere and most places tell me I’m overqualified. I can’t get it non-disclosed because it’s an enhanced form of child endangerment. That’s what SOME lawyers say. SOME lawyers say I can. NO lawyer has EVER had a case like this so they don’t know how it would go down. Afraid to waste my money over and over again while lawyers make mistakes trying to figure it out.
I tell the truth on application with the first line stating DEFERRED ADJUDICATION: FINAL FINDING- NO CONVICTION
And then I input the details it asks to explain. Why IS it so hard to find work for a woman with a DWI? Especially a felony? If it was a man, they would just shrug it off like no big deal and hire them up and shake hands and head out to the bar for a drink. It’s such a double standard. I’m a good person. I work hard. I’m dedicated to what I do. I made a mistake. Even the justice system saw that there was circumstances surrounding what happened and gave me a break. They could have thrown the book at me, but didn’t. Why won’t employers cut me some slack.
Felon with deferred DWI needs a Job
Hello,
Perhaps you are disclosing too much information and scaring employers away with your explanation. I encourage all ex-offenders and felons looking for jobs to only disclose what is asked...no more!
For each application you complete, pay careful attention to the wording. Most applications ask about convictions and not arrests. In reference to your deferred adjudication, you must consider the conditions of your deferment. In most cases, when the conditions are fulfilled (usually a fine and probation,) the original charges are dismissed but they remain as charges not convictions. Anyone accessing your record (other than law enforcement, the court system, and government agencies) will only see the charges. For more clarification, contact the prosecutor in your case.
I hope this helps.
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I want to first thank you from the bottom of my heart for doing this site.
I am on probation for a class D felony (promoting prostitution). I would like to get a bachelor's degree in business administration. I can't stand on my legs for long periods of time because I have severe back problems and fibromyalgia. I suffer from chronic pain but I would still like to work. I got baptized in jail and I want a decent life and a good job. My question is: I am 46 years, do you think a company will want to hire me at my age with a felony on my record?
Sue,
Female Felon needs a Job
Hello Sue
Often the felon job search begins with a little legal assistance. I suggest you contact your local legal aid office to see if expungement is an option for you in your state. Legal aid could offer low-cost or no-cost assistance in this process. It will make getting a job a lot easier.
Next contact your local One-stop Career Center. The local One-stop is a full service employment center offering a wide variety of services including job placement to residents. There are computers, resume assistance and trained counselors that could assist you in your job search. Many counselors have experience working with felons. You may qualify for funding that could train you for a new career. You can find your local One-stop Career Center here:
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Finally contact the United Way in your area. The United Way supports a large number of community organizations and could point you thedirection of one that could use your skills. They could also put you in contact with women's advocacy groups that may assist you in other ways.
I hope this helps.
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I am a felon, with a drug trafficking charges, just got out of prison a month ago. I was locked up for 5 years. I was interested in a career in Medical Billing and Coding. I applied at the local community college and got accepted. When I was ready to register for classes the head of the program said that I won't be employable. I chose that program because there is no clinical involved and he thinks the record will be a problem. I am from Pensacola Fa. What do you think?
Felon wants Job in Medical Field
Hello,
My personal feeling is that everyone is employable. The question is will your legal status prohibit you from being licensed or certified in your chosen field. Just a little insight, to my knowledge there are few positions offered as Medical Biller/Coder. The Medical biller compiles and tracks the outstanding balances owed to medical facilities. The function of billing and coding is often part of other positions. It may be a function of a medical assistant or some other position. It often isn't a stand-alone position. I could be wrong, so get some clarification from the school you wish to attend. Also find out if there are any certification or licensing requirements. If there are restrictions based on your record, ask the placement office if there are any types of jobs where your record won't be as big a problem. I encourage anyone who is thinking about career training to ask for the placement record. These schools have placement offices so you can ask what percentage of their graduates get jobs and where. I would definitely ask these questions before I invest any time or money.
The good news is, medical assistants work in doctors' offices. Private doctors are free to hire anyone they choose. Make a good impression and you will get a job. Never let your past dictate your future. I encourage every felon to apply for every job they feel they qualify for. Apply for as many jobs as you can and never give up!
Best of luck to you.
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Lady Felon has Made Mistakes but Trying to move Forward
Dear Mr. Mayo,
This letter is finding it's way to you today because thru out this
journey I've been venturing alone I fortunately asked Google the right
question, browsed the Internet tapping in the direction to find you, or
possibly just a higher power. Whatever it was that has lead me to this
path I'm taking my opportunity to finally find someone who can guide me
in the direction I needed to be in months possibly years ago.
My name is
Kandy, I am as of 01/06/2015 convicted felon ×7, I by the grace
of God was fortunate enough to be blessed to keep my nursing license.
Yes, I am a licensed practical nurse 10 years, 11 years 03/09/2016. & was a nursing assistant 12 years before that. My license is under suspension at least until March 15, 2017.
But thru all the court proceedings, separation from my husband of 18
years, 2 kids then 12y/o & 4y/o, losing our home, cars, dignity,
job, income, I mean literally losing everything besides the ability to
breathe.
So I have only worked about 3 months in the past 2 years. I'm
desperate to learn all I can to just make some kind of progress towards
employment. Still legally married, my husband in his trade 15 years
making $38.74 hourly, now about to take his journey man's test making
about $45-$50 an hour and have to beg for $20 fir gas to get his
children across town to school. I could go on and on. What is most
important is I'm hard working, dedicated, always give 110% even in
chaotic/stressful/basic events. I believe strongly in working as a team,
doing whatever it takes to get the job done, I'm humble and learn
quickly, if I don't know something I'll bust my tail to figure it out,
compassionate, silly, friendly, outgoing, energetic, intelligent,
professional. 100% adult /woman enough to admit that I admit only
naming my hood qualities but know that I have many bad as does the rest
of the human race, but I conduct myself in a respectful professional
manner. I know there's a time and an place for everything and can admit
when I'm wrong, as well as right my wrongs proudly. Lastly I'm
genuinely a good person that made mistakes, who's life got the best of
for a minute, but I am sober 4 years & 79 days since 11/01/11.
I will help any and everyone I can always have everyday of my life.
Before this letter I had been do ashamed and humiliated that I fell off
from heart ache, too proud to ask for help, & wanted to fix my life
quickly & quietly before it all came out. However, I'm broke and
struggling while bringing my children to suffer with me.
So my story
doesn't end here, this is one step towards my success story no matter
the outcome. Your an amazing man to do any of this, from my travels
down this path I now have a desire and passion to do what you are doing, to
help change things to where a mistake doesn't mean a life sentence no
matter what your actual sentence was. To help show that of you give
incentives, rewards, & just give a chance not taking an Ex-Offenders
rights/privileges & commodities away even after their debt is paid,
sentence maxed out, or they do any and every thing they are offered to
rehabilitate themselves. Maybe one day they will see its the
struggle, the difficulty, the failure time & time again, constant
disappointment, the prejudicial preconceived notions of who or what a
person is only because they got caught while everyone commits some kind
of crime breaking the law as we are not perfect it's enviable doesn't
give the right to judge, revoke all amenities and then wonder why
there's drug epidemics, and why people re-offend causing revolving
doors. I hope to hear from you soon, to listen, learn, and complete any
info u throw my way. I thank you so much for your time, be safe &
have a great day.
Sincerely,
Kandy
Lady Felon has Made Mistakes but Trying to move Forward
Hello Kandy,
I'm sorry you are having so much trouble. I hear time and time again that society should be more forgiving in its treatment of ex-offenders and felons looking for jobs. While this may be true, most of the people I meet consciously committed the crimes they were convicted of and they know of the penalties that come along with getting caught. That is the risk they take when they choose to play the game. The rules are clear, if you get caught, you will probably get some time, you will be an outcast of society and it will be difficult to get a job. Everyone know this, so I have to remind them that they are not victims. They must accept the fact that they screwed up their lives so they are responsible to for fixing it. Will it be hard? Yes! Will they need help? Yes, all they can get.
My first suggestion is for you to contact the nearest United Way Office. The United way supports a number of social service agencies that may be able to help your family. There may also be services that aid ex-offenders and felons looking for jobs and organizations that advocate for them.
Next, you will have to build a job search plan. First decide what type of work you are qualified to do. You will then need a resume. If you do not have one, You may be able to get help at your nearest One-stop Career Center.
Daily access to thousands of job listings
Each state has a network of centers that offer a variety of free
services that can help prepare you for a job and assist you in finding employment. In addition, these centers offer aid for career training. You may be able to get training for a career that may not be impacted by your record.
Some services available are:
Career planning and counseling
Workshops (Resume Writing, Interviewing Skills, and related topics.)
Computers with internet access and word processing
Job-related magazines and local newspapers
Job postings and referrals
Printers, fax machines, phones, and copiers for job search use
You will be able to find the One-stop Career Center near you by clicking the link below:
Stay strong and take advantage of the resources available to you. It won't be easy but a little hard work and guidance can help you overcome what has been a difficult situation.
I hope this helps.
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Lady Felon has Made Mistakes but Trying to move Forward
In the last several months I have had the opportunity
to become intimately aware of the financial, psychological and emotional
distress, frustration, fear and decreased self esteem of someone who
has re-entered regular population from incarceration and is incapable of
finding employment that they can survive on because they have a felony.
They may have terrific skill sets that are not being utilized in their
communities but instead are relegated to flipping burgers or manual
labor positions that they cannot sustain themselves or a family on . I
am heartbroken by the dilemma they find themselves wanting to make that
change for the better but the whole system is still stacked against
them. Some might say rightfully so since they committed a crime to begin
with but should everyone be in jail the rest of their lives even after
their actual sentence is complete with no ability to show that they have
learned and want to become productive in society?
The particular
person I came in contact with is homeless, living in his car that he is
always on the verge of losing and unable to find a decent job or find a
place to live. There are some felon friendly apartments but they have a
variety of felony types and this gentleman has a young daughter and
does not want to have her staying with him in an environment that he is
not sure would be safe for her.
It seems to me that the impetus
to re- offend or possibly commit a different crime purely out of
desperation or resorting to less than moral behavior to get what they
need...is great. The impetus to just give up on life is also great. How
tragic! I live in Denver Colorado. I was wondering if you knew of any
staffing services, coaching services, etc that are available and
focus in this area? If you have been helping felons in your area for
over 10 years can you tell me how you go about finding companies that
are willing to give felons a second chance? Are there any government
incentives to businesses that are willing to help give these people a
second chance at life? I want to find out what already exists or maybe
try to put some programs together but I don't want to re-invent the
wheel and would love any input you could give me.
Are there any nationally recognized programs in this area?
Thank you for your time,
Dana
Felon in Colorado needs a Job and Assistance
Hello Dana,
I'm sorry your friend is having so much trouble. Unfortunately it is common for returning citizens (ex-offenders, felons,) to have difficulty putting the past behind them. There are many hurdles to overcome. Below are some resources in your area that your friend may find helpful.
Turnabout, Inc.
Turnabout, Inc. is a non-profit employment,
career, and education services agency that provides access to a
fully-stocked computer lab, daily job leads, transportation assistance,
subsidized work skills training, and job search assistance to former
offenders in the Metro Denver area.
Contact:
Turnabout, Inc.
1630 East 14th Avenue
Denver, CO 80218
(303) 813-0005
The United Way supports many non-profit organizations. The United Way may be able to put you in contact with organizations that aid ex-offenders and felons with various services
The Colorado Workforce Center consolidates
components of Job Service and Employment and Training services in an
attempt to maximize its ability to serve job seekers as well as
employers. Centers are held accountable for performance outcomes based
on the consumer’s feedback. There is an extensive web site devoted to
workforce center information as well as employment services.
Contact:
Colorado Department of Labor and Employment
Tower 11, Suite 400
1515 Arapahoe Street
Denver, CO 80202
303-620-4204
I am contacting you after perusing the Jail to Jobs website and the How Felons Can Get Jobs blog. I am originally from Philadelphia and am planning on returning there after my time at college (out-of-state). I am a convicted felon (over seven years) and will actively be seeking employment in Philadelphia in the coming year. I would like to know if you have any recommendations for re-entry programs or job placement. While it has been eight years since my last arrest, I am sure that I will still find the same difficulty gaining employment as a recently released ex-offender.
Aside from the past two years (enrolled in college since ‘08), I have maintained full-time employment since 2003. Although I have previously worked with various ministries and organizations, because most of the establishments have primarily focused their programming on adjudicated youth and ex-offenders, my past criminal history has not been a concern. However, as a soon to be college graduate with a great deal of life experience, I am looking to possibly expand my horizons.
I thank you in advance for your time and support and await your posted reply.
Respectfully,
John
Felon in PA needs help finding jobs
Hello John,
There are a number of sources in the Philadelphia area that help ex-offenders and felons find jobs. I have listed to below.
Best of luck to you.
Metropolitan Career Center/STRIVE Philadelphia 162 West Chelten Ave. Philadelphia, PA 19144 215-843-6615 Web Site: www.strivecentral.com/sites/national/mcc.htm Please do not forget to go to your local One-stop Career Center. You
will find a ton of free services and resources that can help you get a
job or start a new career. You can get individual assistance with your
job search from counselors. These services can help get a felon jobs.
You will find your local One-stop Career Center here: Philadelphia Workforce Development Corporation 1617 John F. Kennedy Boulevard, 13th Floor Philadelphia, PA 19103–1813 215-557-2625 Web Site:
Me and my husband live in East Saint Louis, Ill. and we have a 2 two year old son. I'm working but my husband isn't. He can't find work anywhere. His problem is he can't find anyplace the will hire him because he has a record. He did something really stupid when he wad 18 years old. He stole a lawn mower out of somebody's yard. Because of that stupid mistake he made as a kid, he now has a felony record and NOBODY will hire him. He is 27 now and this is still holding him back. He has tried so many places and everyone keeps turning him down
Can you please help me? We're trying so hard to get on our feet and we can't because of this nine year old charge. I don't know what were going to do if he can't find a job.
Jessie
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Hello Jessie,
I'm not sure how much a nine year old conviction is holding your husband back. In these economic times, finding a job for everyone is tough. What I tell felons looking for jobs is it's going to take a lot of hard work. I remind them that find a job is a numbers game. Felons are hired everyday. The hard part is finding employers that will give a felon a chance at a job.
What I mean by finding a job is a numbers game is, the more jobs leads you get the more chances you have to get an interview. The more interviews you get, the better your chances of getting hired. So, where is the best place to get job leads. I encourage every felon to visit the local One-stop Career center. The local One-stop is your state sponsored employment office. There you will find a lot of services that can help your husband land a job. Among those services are listings of open jobs in your area. You can get one-on-one job search assistance from trained counselors. There is resume assistance and referrals to job training that could lead to a career. You can find your local One-stop Career center here:
Another option for felons looking for jobs is to apply for temporary employment. Often temporary jobs turn into more permanent situations. When applying for employment at temporary agencies, my students have more success with smaller independent agencies as opposed to national companies. In many cases, the large companies have regulations from their corporate offices that prohibit the hiring of ex-offenders and felons. Independent agencies are free to hire anyone they feel would be a good employee.
Your husband will have to put in hard work to get a job. I don't just mean hard work finding employers, but getting a professional looking resume, brushing up on his interviewing skills and getting the proper clothing to make good impression on employers.
My name is Cynthia. I am still
currently on probation with a felony. I will be on probation
until 2015, I was told by a lawyer that my felony will stay on me
until 2023. The state I was convicted in had a first time
offenders act where I didn’t show up in any system.
I live in
North Carolina where the first time offender act does not
apply. I have been jobless for over a year. I have applied
at several restaurants, retail stores, and other various places.
I have been called to several interviews but the outcome is when
the employers ask me what my felon is
for they tell me they can’t hire me. It is for theft. So, I am
back at square one with endless job applications, and no
success. McDonald's even said they would not hire me. I
have three kids, two which are special needs, and a husband who
is also disabled. My husband is receiving disability and
that alone doesn’t pay all the bills. We get food stamps, and
medicaid. I am wanting to get off the public assistance and
support my family. Is there anything else that I can do to help
with my employment seeking?
JobLink Career Centers are the one-stop career
centers in North Carolina. These centers provide a long list of
services that can help prepare you for a job or even training for
a new career. Each center has counselors that provide
individual assistance. Often these counselors have
experience working with people with criminal backgrounds and know
of employers who have hired ex-offenders
and felons. Among the
services offered you will find lists of open jobs in your
area. You may also get referrals to other agencies that
provide services that can help your family. You can find
the center closest to you here:
http://www.ncesc1.com/locator/locatormain.asp
Because you have a theft conviction, you may not be considered
for retail, cash handling or other positions where valuables are
at risk. That must be taken into consideration when
applying for jobs.
I'm a convicted felon who is trying to become a Registered Nurse. I have a 1st degree felony drug charge for Possession of Controlled Substance from May 2000 - ten years ago! I finally got accepted into a nursing program after being rejected from another and thought I have over come all the hurdles. Now the school has just informed me that I may not be able to get into their school after all because the hospitals where I have to do clinicals may not allow felons.... Do you have any advice? Would some kind of bond maybe help my situation as far as the hospitals go?
Thanks for your help,
Melody
Felon wants job as a nurse
Hello Melody,
Jobs for felons in the medical field depends on the conviction. Drug charges almost always prohibits one from working in hospitals. Your only hope may be to have your conviction sealed. The only problem with that is, even with an expungement or sealing, your conviction will always be visible to law enforcement, the court system and government agencies which will present a problem being licensed.
Often ex-offender and felon job searches begin with legal assistance. I suggest contacting your local legal aid office to see if sealing of your record or expungement is an option for you. Expungement/Sealing of records are legal processes tha one should never attempt without legal guidance. The legal aid office may offer low cost or even free assistance with these processes.
Best of luck to you.
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